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Dennis Charles Talbott and Catherine Carroll

My gggrandparents are Dennis Charles Talbott and Catherine Carroll. They emigrated to the U.S. around 1836 and began farming in Grattan Township, Kent County, Michigan. I have a copy of a land record showing Dennis purchased with a Richard Talbott and am assuming this is a brother.
I also have ship records showing Dennis, Catherine, and two children, John and Mary. Not sure if it is the rright one as there should be a third child, Jane. Census records state he was from Tipperary and or Northern Ireland. I have been unable to find anything related to the marriage or births. If the Irish naming pattern holds true, then Dennis' father was also John.

I would appreciate any help!

Thanks

Sandy Hansen

Talbot

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Hi Sandy,

Baptism record for John is from Kilkenny (from www.rootsireland.ie/)

Name:Denis TalbotDate of Birth:
Date of Baptism:12-Feb-1826Address:
Parish/District:ThurlesGender:
CountyCo. Tipperary
Denomination:Roman Catholic
Father:Martin TalbotMother:Bridget O'ConnellOccupation:
Sponsor 1 /
Informant 1:Dick TalbotSponsor 2 /
Informant 2:Kitty Talbot

Name:Mary TalbottDate of Birth:
Date of Baptism:03-Feb-1833Address:LoughParish/District:JOHNSTOWNGender:FemaleCountyCo. Kilkenny
Denomination:Roman Catholic
Father:Denis TalbottMother:Mary CarrollOccupation:
Sponsor 1 /
Informant 1:Bridget Nochton

Col

ColCaffIrelandXO Volunteer

Thank you so much for the quick reply! I cannot access rootsireland as it requires a subscription. The Denis Talbot birth record may not be my Denis. My Denis was born 1802 or 1805 based on other records I have and he could not be the father of this Mary as she was born 1833.

The birth record of Mary sounds promising! I need to check the birthdate I have for her. I have some other information that says Catherine's first name was Mary so it could be the right one. At least now I have an area to look into!

Thanks again,

Sandy

Talbot

Can you explain Lough Parish? I am not seeing any by this name.

Talbot

Sandy:

In case Col did not see your question, let me try to assist. The record was in the RC parish of Johnstown in northwest Co. Kilkenny. The address refers to a place name or townland in the parish. In this situation, I believe Lough is referring to Lough townland in Erke civil parish again in northwest Kilkenny. Erke was sevice by Johnstown RC in 1833 although later a new RC parish was established in Galmoy.

Roger McDonnell

Castlemore RoscommonIrelandXO Volunteer

Thank you for the clarification.  Through searching I did find that Lough is a townland.  I did get a copy of John and Mary's baptismal records with your help! I think this family was nomadic as the third child is not listed in the same microfilm! She was born in 1935.  Then a year or two later they emmigrated to the U.S.

Now how would I go about finding records farther back since these records don't go any earlier than 1814 to find Dennis' birth and the marriage records are too late for Dennis and Catherine.  I would like to know Dennis and Catherine's parents' names.

Thanks again!  This is the closest I have gotten to find a specific location in Ireland.  It's confusing though that U.S. census records state Tipperary as the county they are from .  Maybe that is where they went to when leaving Kilkenny!

Sandy

Talbot

Hi Sandy,

Good to see you have Roger on the case!

You can get a short subscription to rootsireland - 24 hours or 1 month.

Don't think I posted this one last time:

Name:John TalbutDate of Birth:
Date of Baptism:19-Feb-1830Address:LoughParish/District:JOHNSTOWNGender:MaleCountyCo. Kilkenny
Denomination:Roman Catholic
Father:Denis TalbutMother:Catherine CarrollOccupation:
Sponsor 1 /
Informant 1:John CarrollSponsor 2 /
Informant 2:Mary Noughton
Notes:

[E][MOTHER GIVEN AS KITTY]

Talbotts & Carrolls married quite a bit!

Name:Bridget TalbotDate of Birth:
Date of Baptism:09-May-1832Address:LoughParish/District:JOHNSTOWNGender:FemaleCountyCo. Kilkenny
Denomination:Roman Catholic
Father:Richard TalbotMother:Judith CarrollOccupation:
Sponsor 1 /
Informant 1:Daniel CarrollSponsor 2 /
Informant 2:Mary Nochton
Notes:

[E][MOTHER GIVEN AS JUDY, SP1 GIVEN AS DAN]

Name:Jane TalbottDate of Birth:
Date of Baptism:17-Feb-1831Address:LoughParish/District:JOHNSTOWNGender:FemaleCountyCo. Kilkenny
Denomination:Roman Catholic
Father:Richard TalbottMother:Judith CarrollOccupation:
Sponsor 1 /
Informant 1:William TalbottSponsor 2 /
Informant 2:Catherine Carroll

Col

ColCaffIrelandXO Volunteer

Sandy:

I don't think you will find the baptismal records for Denis and Mary. You are fortunate to have a parish that has records back to 1814. If you do get a short-term Roots subscription possibly they were baptized in a different parish that has records back to 1800 or earlier. The problem is you don't know the parents names so you will not be able to confrim you have the right record. All the best!

Roger

Castlemore RoscommonIrelandXO Volunteer

I recently connected with a person that has a dna connection as a 4th cousin. His 3rd great grandfather is William Henry Talbot born in 1784. He married Nancy Anna"Mary" O'Donnell born 1798.  We believe this is the brother of Dennis Charles Talbot (1802), my 2nd great grandfather.  William's children were born in Johnstown, Kilkenny just as Dennis' children were.  William immigrated to Kalamazoo, Michigan and Dennis to Lowell, Michigan. I am guessing there is another brother, Richard as I have a land record where Dennis and Richard had lad together in the Lowell area.  My 4th cousin believes there was a sister Mary as well.  
With this added information, I was hoping there are others who may have information on who the parents are of Dennis and William.

 

Talbot

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