Hi,
I am trying to trace Davoren family Mulroog ballindeeren. Bartley Davoren born 1873 was my ggf. His mother was Hanoria Linnane and his father was John Davoren.
Any information on his family would be greatly appreciated
Laura Davoren Dolan
Laura:
Welcome to Ireland Reaching Out!
I located Bartley's baptismal record but did not find a civil birth record for him. I did find four civil birth records for siblings. The parents died relatively young. See death records below. I did not find their marriage record.
Roger McDonnell
Name:Bartholomew DavoranDate of Birth:23-Oct-1873
Date of Baptism:25-Oct-1873Address:MulruckParish/District:KILCOLGAN/BALLINDEREENGender:MaleCountyCo. Galway
Denomination:Roman Catholic
Father:John DavoranMother:Honor LinnaneOccupation:
Sponsor 1 /
Informant 1:Thomas Linnane Sponsor 2 /
Informant 2:Mary Linnane
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Hi Roger,
Thanks for your prompt reply. I can trace Bartley my ggf in the 1911 census, but I am having no luck with any of his siblings.Is there any way I could trace my gggf John Davorans birthplace or origins.
Kind regards,
Laura Davoren Dolan
Hi Laura!
Assuming the informant (Bartley) knew his father's age when John died in 1886, John would have been born around 1836. The RC baptismal records for Ballindereen/Kilcolgan do not start until 1854 so if he was baptized in that parish then a record is not available.
Roots Ireland does have some John Davern/Davoren around 1836 but they are in different parishes and there is no way to confirm these records.
Have you considered DNA testing?
Roger
Hi Roger,
Is there any DNA test you would recommend. Where would I go to look for Bartley's siblings ?
Thanks a million,
Laura
Laura:
I have tested with Ancestry DNA and Family Tree DNA. You can also test with 23 and Me and My Hertiage and I'm sure there are a few other companies.
Ancestry by far has the biggest data base but I find that Ancestry matches frequently do not get back to you when you try to make contact.
Regardless of who you test with, make sure you add your data to the Gedmatch data base www.gedmatch.com to expand your matching pool.
I did some more searching on the subscription site Roots Ireland and it appears that John Davoren/Davern and Honor Linnane had at least ten children as follows:
Bridget April 1863 Ellen December 1864 Mary January 1867 Catherine March 1869 Bartholomew 1873 Honor October 1875 Martin January 1878 John January 1880 Anne August 1882 Susan November 1884
I searched for marriages and deaths in the Gort registration district and only found one possible family record which was a death record for an Ellen in 1894. Now your Ellen should have been 29 yet this record shows 22. The informant was a brother Martin which matches one of the siblings so I'm not sure.
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You mentioned finding Bartley in the 1911 census. Is he the married Bartley in the Oranmore area?
I did not see any of your family around Mulroog in the 1901 or 1911 censuses.
Roger
Hi Roger,
Yes that Bartley in oramore is my gggf .He is also mentioned in a census in Sneem Kerry in 1901. I found. a Bartley Davoren in the Griffith valuation in 1855 in mulroog west. Mulroog is mentioned in my gggf Bartley's birth records and his father's death record. Bartley in 1855 is too old to be my gggf, but I think must be a relative of my gggf,
Any advice on where to look next, hard to believe all the 10 children disappeared without a trace, except for my gggf.
Kind Regards,
Laura
Laura:
I would first search www.irishgenealogy.ie for marriage and death records beyond the Gort registration district. If Bartley moved around Ireland then maybe some of the other siblings did also. Use Davern and then Davoren. I don't think the search routine picks up Davern when you put in Davoren and vice versa.
I would then look for them in other countries e.g England, America, Canada, Australia.
Roger
Roger,
Is roots.ie the best site or findmypast to use ??
Regards,
Laura
I am trying to trace my Davoren ancestors as well and think my ggrandmother Honor/Honoria may be related.
I keep hitting a deadend, but I do know she came from Ballindereen and was most likely born in the 1870s.
Hi Belinda, my ggf Bartley had a sister Honor born in 1875
Regards,
Laura D
HI Laura,
It sounds like that is her brother. My ggrandmother Honor (Nora) moved to New Zealand in 1911 and we know very little about her.
Hi Belinda,
If it is the same Honor, she was born in 1875 in Mulroog Ballindeeren Galway. From my records she moved to New Zealand and married William Newell. Would that match your ggm.
Her parents were John Davoren and Honor Linnane. John died in 1886 age 50, not sure what happened to Honor his wife. Her father was a farmer according to birth records from his children, however later records say he was a labourer.
Can you tell me anything about your ggm. She had a lot of siblings .Her brother Patrick married and stayed in Galway .
My email address is lauradavoren@gmail.com.
Regards,
Laura