Cronin and Reardon

Hi Brian,

I found the family but it does not jibe with the children you mentioned. I will attach my findings below and maybe you can make some sense of them.   It seems as if two different families are involved here. The ones I attached all lived in West Cork and only moved a short distance from Kilnamartyra to Clondroicead.  Your Mary is a long way from there and I don't think Tim and Mary Riordan of Kilnamartyra were her parents.

Where did you find the information that your Mary had parents with that name? I looked up Tipperary and could find no evidence of them.

If you have other information that might help, please let me know.

Geraldine

Hello Geraldine Powell,

Thank you for your reply, and for checking on my behalf.

I found a record of Mary , or Maria Cronin's birth in the Irish Catholic Parish Registers, 1655 to 1915., for February 1821, for Cashel and Emly, Tipperary, 1810 -1822

I have attached a copies of that.

At this stage I cannot recall where I obtained the names and dates of siblings. The likelihood is that I found them by searching on the internet using Ancestry.ca. However, they were not from other Ancestry trees.  

Very many thanks

Brian Truscott

Brian,

What makes you believe that the Maria Cronin in Tipperary with parents Timothy and Maria is the same family as the one in Kilnamartyra? I don't think it is all that likely. They would have had to move to Tipperary, have a baby, Mary, there in Feb, 1821 and then moveback to Kilnamartyra and have another baby (Ellen) in March 1822.

I suppose it is possible but I don't think it likely. They had a bunch of kids and Kilnamartyra was their home.

Cronin is a very common Irish surname and there were probably quite a few couples with those names. Do you have any proof that  any of these people are related to you?  If you could tell me the facts you know definitely, then it might be possible to  work from there.

Anyway, good luck in your search.

Geraldine

Hello Geraldine Powell,

The only fact I have is that Baptismal record, which agreed with the date of birth and location of my maternal great great grandmother, which I received from the Matthews family in Australia. 

 The "siblings" I found elsewhere, via a death certifcate, as I recall, and the names and dates seemed to fit. 

Therefore, I believe you are correct. Probably I was too eager to add some substance to my maternal great great grandmother, Mary Cronin.   

 She died at the age of 34, in childbirth, in Australia, when my great gandmother, Mary Jane Matthews, was only 4. My maternal great great grandfather, William Matthews of County Cork, shot himself when Mary Jane, my maternal great grandmother was only 9. Anything she might have had was lost in a fire in Australia in 1891, and 6 weeks later her husband fled creditors and abandoned her and their family. She subsequently went to South Africa with my maternal grandmother to join her son and his new family, except she never saw him as he died the day they arrived in South Africa.

For whatever reason/s my siblings and I knew nothing about my maternal maternal side until I started digging, and I never thought to ask my mother while she was still alive

Thank you for checking.

Stay safe and well

Brian Truscott..