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Crehan and Ohara families

Hello everyone and greetings from Australia,

I am researching the families of my great grandparents, William Crehan (Creghan) and Margaret (Margret) Ohara.

Their marriage record was 17 June 1871 at Clonbrook when William was a farmer at Mountbellew and Margaret was a farmer at Cloonfaric (Cloonfarris?).

William's death is recorded on 2 July 1898 aged 57 at Mountbellew leaving Margaret a widow. They lived in Castlegar.

Margaret, with son Martin and daughters Mary (Maria), Margaret and Annie were resident at House 15 Castlegar in the 1901 census. By the 1911 census Maria and Annie had moved into House 4 Castlegar.

Another son, William (my grandfather) born 11 August 1884, married my grandmother in Yorkshire in 1909.

Their other son, Michael, died of wounds in France in 1918 and is buried in a war grave there.

Margaret died in 1938, (age given as 93 born 1845) at Mountbellew. Martin died in 1950, aged 69, at Mountbellew.

Margaret was born 18 March 1849 at Caltra.Margaret's father was Dan Ohara, farmer.Her mother was Mary Ohara (nee Gaven). Dan and Mary were married at Killosolan on 18 January 1841. Dan's death at age 65 was recorded on 6 July 1877 at Killeronan - Address: Killosolan: Status: Widower: Occupation: Labourer. Sarah Ohara of Killosolan was present at death.

Margaret's brother Daniel (baptised 16 November 1856 at Caltra) and his family were residents of House 55 Killosolan in the 1901 census and House 56 in the 1911 census.

I would appreciate any information that would help me to research further back in time.

However, my main interest is in locating any relevant dwellings, remains, people or places of family interest when wepass through the area during our driving tour of Ireland in July this year.

Thank you

Tony Crehan

tcrehan

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Tony:

You have done a great job with your family research. I don't live in Ireland so I can't assist with your request about local sites to visit.

I just wanted to mention a minor point about the 1901 and 1911 censuses. The constables went into each townland and picked up the census returns from each family. As they went from house to house they assigned a number in order. Depending on which direction they went in the townland, the same residence could have a different number in the 1901 census compared to the 1911 census. So likely the Crehans were in the same house in 1901 and 1911, however, the constables assigned different numbers based on their movement thru the townland.

Enjoy your trip to Ireland

Roger McDonnell

Castlemore RoscommonIrelandXO Volunteer

Hi Roger,

Thanks to your advice I have obtained copies of the death records. Margaret Crehan's daughter Annie was present at her death registered in 1938. She was by then Annie Duggan.

Can you tell me if there is a way to search the official birth, death and marriage records like you did for Margaret and Martin?

There is nothing in Ireland after 1927 on Ancestry.com.

I am hoping to find descendants or information for Annie Duggan, born Annie Crehan in 1897. All I can find is census records for 1901 and 1911.

All the best,

Tony

tcrehan

Tony:

I use a subscription service called www.findmypast.ie  I believe they have the index records through 1958. I just renewed my subscription. It is a valuable resource for someone like me who spends a lot of time responding to the queries on this message board.

I can do lookups for me if you give me names and remind what the registration district was--Mountbellew?

Rogert

Castlemore RoscommonIrelandXO Volunteer

Hi Tony I'm not quite sure if we may be related but my grandfather's name was Patrick Crehan and he came from mount bellew co galway. He came over to the UK in the 1920s along with his two brothers Joseph and john, martin his other brother stayed in Ireland to work on the farm. He settled in St Helens in what is now Merseyside and found work in the local mine at clock face along with my uncle Joe. John found work looking after a small farm which belonged to St Anne's monastery at Sutton St Helens. My grandfather married a local girl one of the boden sisters from Sutton and they had four children Patrick, francis, James, and Brian, my father was Patrick who also became a miner. My grandfather died in 1953 aged 50. I don't know if any of this information is of any use to you but if it is you are very welcome, my uncle frank by the way emigrated to New Zealand in the 1960s. Many regards. Dennis Crehan.

 

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Hi Dennis. Thank you for your message. Your grandfather's name is not one that I have come across in my research but as he  and his brothers came from Mount Bellew it is quite possible that we are related in some way. My grandfather William relocated to Yorkshire before 1909 (the year he married). Last year I made contact with my cousin (Liz Duggan) and met her in Mount Bellew with another cousin John Crehan. Liz is the grandaughter of my grandfather's sister Annie. John is the son of my grandfather's brother Martin, who I then discovered had married late in life. The same names keep cropping up don't they? It makes Irish family history research more challenging. Do you know the names of Patrick Crehan's parents or his approximate year of birth? It may be a path that may help me to go back further in my paternal line than my great-grandfather, which I have not been able to do so far. All the best. Tony

 

 

 

tcrehan

Hi. Dennis,  My partner Neil Crehan has connections with Mount Bellew.  His grandfather Martin Crehan was born in Gurteen, Mount Bellew in 1886.  The brothers & sisters that we know of are Patrick, Dennis, Honor & Cecelia.  Their parents were Michael Crehan & Bridget Duffy.  Between 1901 & 1911 Martin & Patrick came over to St Helens to work as coalminers but we do not know at which colliery.  We have been over to Ireland to the farm (about 4 years ago) which they had built & lived in & met Maureen Crehan who is the widow of Brian Crehan who may possibly be brother to Neil's father Michael.  We have since lost touch with Maureen - no replies to letters or phone calls.  As a lot of the names you have mentioned correspond we were wondering if you are any relation & if you could shed any light on them.  Hoping to hear from you soon. 

Marg.

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Hi Marg you seem to be suffering from the same problem as me all our family contacts have either moved away or are no longer with us. My cousin Janet visited mount bellew about two years ago and could only find one great aunt her name is Katy Daly and she lives near tuam. There is another family in St Helens with the same name as us but they are not related they live in parr. As I said in my previous post my grandfather who was born in 1897 worked down the mine at clock face with my uncle Joe, I don't know if your partner Neil's relative lived in clock face or thereabouts but if they did they would have also worked down clock face because the manor pit wasn't open then. I don't know if I've helped you with this information or not. The same names keep cropping up don't they which adds to the confusion my two sons are also called Michael and Neil, see what I mean. Take care of yourselves and if I find anything of mutual interest I'll let you know.

Dennis 

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Tony

I hope that you had a successful trip and met relatives back in July 2014
I went to school with Crehans from Castlegar, no doubt your cousins 

Dennis , Marg & Tony

I live in Mountbellew and admin the local DNA group on FB - would welcome all those who have ancestry here to join https://www.facebook.com/groups/1419808661442784

I also admin the Killascobe Parish IXO which is the parish south of Mountbellew

Martin

martinjcurley@gmail.com

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