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Connerty and Trainer Records

My great great great grandparents Charles Walter Connerty and Margaret Trainer (maiden name found on childs birth record), can be found in the 1841 census living in Liverpool Lancashire England. The record states that Charles was born abt 1801 in Ireland and Margaret was born abt 1806 in Ireland, but as we know the 1841 census is not a very good guide to a persons real birth year. Their 1st child, (thatthe census gives)Catherine was born 1826 in Liverpool Lancashire England. Both Charles and Margaret died in 1849 of Cholera, I have had varying degrees of success finding their childrenin latercensus records. Catherine the 1st child, cannot be found anywhere, Thomas the 2nd child, married in 1850 and is in the 1851 census. Charles the 3rd child, is notfound untill he married in 1859 then is in census records, John the 4th child, also is not found untill he married in 1861, then he is in census records.The 3 youngestchildren, Mary aged 12, William 7 and Peter 6,can be foundin the 1851 census records at the Industrial School of Liverpool, Walton-on-the-Hill, Lancashire, and then in otherrecords and census'.

I would very much like to find out where in Ireland Charles and Margaret were born and married, also the names of their parents and siblings, it could be that other family members wentto England with them, they could even have been living in Liverpool as well, but I have no way of making a connection with out the details that I am seeking.

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msimson:

Welcome to Ireland Reaching Out!

There are very few church baptismal records available back to the early 1800s. The Irish Times web site below will show you where surnames were found in the mid-19th century. Connerty was almost exclusively a Co. Cavan surname. Trainer and its many variants with Traynor being the most common were found Louth, Monaghan, Cavan, Armagh and Down so your family wwas very likely to be from one of those counties. I searched for Charles Connerty baptismal records and there were none from that time period. Margaret Trainer and variants was a common name. There was an 1807 record in Louth and and 1808 record in Louth but without knowing her parents names, there is no way to confirm. Also did not find a marriage record.

You may want to consider autosomal DNA testing.

http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/surname/  

Roger McDonnell

Castlemore RoscommonIrelandXO Volunteer

Thank you Roger, for taking a look for me.  I have found a burial record for a Charles Connerty for the 31 Aug 1849, which could be the correct record, but it gives his age as 62 which means he was born in 1787, there again another Charles Connerty could have also died in 1849 in Liverpool, maybe !!   I think I will have to order the death certificates for both Charles and Margaret.  Thanks for the suggestion of autosomal DNA testing, unfortunately my pitiful pension won't stretch to such things, if I ever come into money that will be first on my list of things to do, the sencond would be to visit Ireland.  

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I read with interest your remark that the Connerty name was mostly native to Co.Cavan. I am looking for any relatives or connections from the Connerty family, however I was advised that the family came from Westmeath, maybe the family travelled around. Based on the dates in this discusion, Charles Connerty may be a ancestor.

My G.G.G.Grandfather was Edward Connerty born in 1809 (I'm told) in Westmeath and was transported to Australia for perjury, sentanced for 7 years.Edward died in Sydney infirmary in Oct 1864.

He married Mary Loughry in 1833 in Multyfanham, she died in 1837 they had 1 child (name unknown), Edward arrived in Australia 1839/40.

He married in Mary Williams Australia and had 5 children, my G,G.Grandfather was Thomas Connerty, I notice that some of the childrens names from jmsimson's research that many of the childrens names are the same as my Connerty family, maybe we have a connection?? 

I have no other information on Edwards family prior to leaving Ireland

I would be grateful if you could find a connection with the Connerty family's and advise Y on N.

I look forward to any reply

Regards....Les Cook Sydney Australia

Cookie from Oz

I read with interest your remark that the Connerty name was mostly native to Co.Cavan. I am looking for any relatives or connections from the Connerty family, however I was advised that the family came from Westmeath, maybe the family travelled around. Based on the dates in this discusion, Charles Connerty may be a ancestor.

My G.G.G.Grandfather was Edward Connerty born in 1809 (I'm told) in Westmeath and was transported to Australia for perjury, sentanced for 7 years.Edward died in Sydney infirmary in Oct 1864.

He married Mary Loughry in 1833 in Multyfanham, she died in 1837 they had 1 child (name unknown), Edward arrived in Australia 1839/40.

He married in Mary Williams Australia and had 5 children, my G,G.Grandfather was Thomas Connerty, I notice that some of the childrens names from jmsimson's research that many of the childrens names are the same as my Connerty family, maybe we have a connection?? 

I have no other information on Edwards family prior to leaving Ireland

I would be grateful if you could find a connection with the Connerty family's and advise Y on N.

I look forward to any reply

Regards....Les Cook Sydney Australia

Cookie from Oz

I read with interest your remark that the Connerty name was mostly native to Co.Cavan. I am looking for any relatives or connections from the Connerty family, however I was advised that the family came from Westmeath, maybe the family travelled around. Based on the dates in this discusion, Charles Connerty may be a ancestor.

My G.G.G.Grandfather was Edward Connerty born in 1809 (I'm told) in Westmeath and was transported to Australia for perjury, sentanced for 7 years.Edward died in Sydney infirmary in Oct 1864.

He married Mary Loughry in 1833 in Multyfanham, she died in 1837 they had 1 child (name unknown), Edward arrived in Australia 1839/40.

He married in Mary Williams Australia and had 5 children, my G,G.Grandfather was Thomas Connerty, I notice that some of the childrens names from jmsimson's research that many of the childrens names are the same as my Connerty family, maybe we have a connection?? 

I have no other information on Edwards family prior to leaving Ireland

I would be grateful if you could find a connection with the Connerty family's and advise Y on N.

I look forward to any reply

Regards....Les Cook Sydney Australia

Cookie from Oz

Les:

I looked at the subscription site Roots Ireland and the only close baptismal record to 1809 was a March 7, 1811 record for an Edward Connaughton (as transcribed) in the Milltown Co. Westmeath RC records. Parents were Thomas Connaughton and Bridget (no last name shown). I could not find the 1833 marriage record in Multyfarnham.

Roger

Castlemore RoscommonIrelandXO Volunteer

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