Clogher Cemetary?

Hi Seamus, there are two graveyards, Clonoulty which is in the village of Clonoulty, and is now on line at Tipperary studies Digitisation Project, Records are done for the graveyard in Clogher, but are not on line yet.

You will find Crowe,s Crough,s in Glenenagh in the Tithes .

Let me know how you get on.

Christina Volunteer. 

Hi Christina and a Happy New Year,

Thanks for writing a reply to me, especially on New Years Day, it is much appreciated.

Thanks for the information on the Tithes which I haven't got round to yet but am hoping to concentrate on shortly before my trip 19-26 January 2020.

Also thanks for the info about the Cemetary information but

1 Where are the records online for the Clonoulty cemetary? Are they on the Tipp Studies website or is it a commercial site

2 The Clogher graveyard records may be digitised and coming online but I would still like to visit the graveyard and see if I can find anyone pending the results being made public? I can find no record of there even being a graveyard either on the Tipp County records or other graveyard sites, hence my original request for a location. Perhaps here I am at fault for not searching correctly but I would respond to a light tap on the head and shoving in the right direction? :)

Thanks again for the info and taking the time to write.

Best wishes,

Shay

Hi again Seamus, just google Tipperary Studies Dijitisation Project Graveyard inscriptions.  Its a free site.

If you tell me the names you are searching for in Clogher Graveyard I will have a look for them.

The Tithes for the Catholic Parish of Clonoulty/Rossmore are all enumerated, but may not  be on line,

but if you come to Ireland you will be able to get them in The National Library Dublin.

Let me know how you get on.

Christina.

Hi Christina,

Thanks again for the information.

Can you tell me if the graveyard has been transcribed, just waiting to be posted or does it still need work? I could volunteer if it needs some work?

As the Clogher cemetary location is obviously a secret :)

Could you look for any Surnames: Crowe, Crough, Croagh and its variations Croke and Croak(e). It would be much appreciated as this is potentially a useful graveyard.

Best wishes,

Shay

Shay, looking through Clonoulty Graveyard yesterday, there were a lot of  Crowe,s Crough/Creagh, in it.

The Book with inscriptions for Clogher  is available to see in The Local Studies, Co Library Thurles, you may also get the Tithes there.

In  The Tipperary Studies Digitisation Project you will also get access to The Rent Books 1840, which have a lot of material.

As you drive from Clonoulty Village towards Holy Cross and Thurles, Clogher Graveyard is on a hill on the right hand side about a mile from Clonoulty.

Let me know how you get on.

Christina.

Hello,   The transcriptions in the Tipperary Studies Centre (over the towns library) are in a book with Clonoulty Parish graveyard inscriptions too. There were no digital transcriptions I was made awre of when I asked for them?

The location of the Clogher graveyard is along a very straight track to a hill with really nice views over the countryside. there is a small parking area at the gateway. For a graveyard it was 'enjoyable' and a nice place to be buried if that is important to you.

52°36'57.8"N      7°56'31.7"W             52.616053, -7.942133

Clonoulty graveyard is to the South - East   52°36'15.6"N     7°57'28.2"W           52.604326     -7.957829   The inscriptions are available online

In general, many of the things offered at the Tipp Studies Centre are not universal for the whole of Tipperary. They may offer rent books and other records but because of history many areas are not covered. You are strongly advised to ask the Centre directly for specific information / documents and the locations they relate to before you travel. For instance you can look at the newspaper records for Ireland free of charge. Only the ones that have been digitised and if it is for another county, as I was able to look at Kerry newspapers in the studies centre, it is impossible to get a copy of the page /article without visiting Kerry. In Tipperary you can only get some papers in digital form the rest are on microfilm without an index. In other words you have to 'turn' the pages one by one of the microfilm like in the old days of searching paper newspapers.

Seamus

Hello PJ,

I am sorry I did not reply to this message, it is possible that its notification arrived at thte same time as another from XO and I missed it. I usually reply to all my messages, not just out of courtesy but becaue they are 1) rare and b)someone took the time to write.

I should explain that my interest in Clonoulty stems from my direct line of fathers and a second family in Clonoulty. As Clonoulty/Kilcommon was one of the denser populations of the family name in Tipp. Solohead and Cappawhite are the other two. Tipp also contributed twice as many baptisms to the register as Clare where thename originates. So, the number of Crowe couples / families is over 100 in each of the three centres.

Due to the difficulties of deciding which Crowe is which, I started a One-Name Study for the surname and variations given above.

Part of the study is to help others find their family members so I have the BMDs for this area relating to the RC church and State Records to about 1901, plus the two census-es. However, new names keep cropping up from families that knew their own family histories and the fact that people are recorded in New territories that were never recorded in Ireland.

So, I have rarely got to graveyard transcriptions or any other sorts of records and if yourself or anyone else who may read this has any extra information I am only too willing to have assistance. :)

No rush for a reply (it has only taken me two years to get to this one! :)