Caughell Family 1700

Thank you for your help. I was aware of the Flight of the Earls, but wondered how my family could have fit in. The idea of being a soldier (Wild Geese) seems probable or being a businessman.

1.  My sister and I are aware of the records in the US and Canada after the Caughell's got here. They were UA Loyalists. This is a family line my sister has worked on fro 30 years. 

2. The hard part is knowing if they are Dutch or Irish. I have a book we participated in: "Caughell Book 1776-1993" by Cleo Berry. There is no proof we are Irish.

Cleo collected Family history from people who were writing as long as 100 years ago. There are even some stories from the 3 sons who came  with Geo Reuben. The sons fought in the War of 1812 here. So the family lore is they are Irish or maybe Scot.

I believe Reuben George's baptismal name uses GEORGE, instead of the Dutch YORIS.

The sons spoke Dutch. 

It's fine with me if they are Dutch. 

3. This data is from someone seems to have done a good job recently and found a birth record: Reuben George Caughell Born: 8 Jan. 1728 or 1738 Holland Reusel de Mierden Noord Brabant. Died 1784 in Ontario, Canada

This is unproven: George Reuben's wife Elizabeth Schwer Born 1741 in Holland Died: 28 Nov. 1831 in Virgil, Ontario, Canada

a.) Oldest son John is reported born 1754 in Holland. The others are much younger, so John's age seems off. Supposed to be born on the Zuider Zee.

b. George Frederick 1771-1842. Birth is either Holland or  New York 

c. Peter 9 Apr 1775 Scholarie, New York 

Thanks so much for using your expertise.

Sharon

 

 

 

Annemarie, 

I left a message for my sister re: how she got George Senior's birthdate. I am pretty sure she found  someone on Ancestry.com who had that data and asked them about it. When they seemed reputable, she added it to her family tree. 

 

As far as knowing the Caughell's were from Holland it goes back to the old stories. Our ancestor, John, the oldest son, overheard women talking about how handsome he was in Dutch, not knowing he could understand it. In this family people did hang on to old letters and stories about their past. There are some items dated 1909-1950. 

Here are some birthdates and locations on George's 3 sons, not the same as the earlier ones. 

[1.] John was born 6 August 1766 in Schoharie County, New York      [2.] George Frederick was born 8 Jan. 1771 New York . Probably Schoharie County     [3.] Peter was born 9 April 1775 Schoharie County, NY.                                        

Also, I found another birth record for a John Cockle from the book "New York Genealogical Records,1675-1920"  John COCKLE baptized 1768 NYC, NY

So I looked up the history of Schoharie County. One of the valleys there was settled extensively by Palantines after the winter of 1709. Evidently, that was a very cold year, crops died, and people fled from Germany to Holland to England. One of the Mohawk Indian chiefs was in Europe at that time and offered one of his valleys in NY to the Palantines. For several decades Palantines came and settled in Schoharie. So this is evidently where the Caughells settled. 

Sharon

Thank you, Annemarie.

I have been looking around the area in the Mohawk Valley, New York where the Caughells settled, and in Ontario, Canada. One fact we have is in 1783 my family arrived in Niagara, Ontario, Canada as men who had served in Butler's Rangers on the British side of the American Revolution.

Every spelling is is Cockle or Coghill. I found two of George Coghill's sons could not even sign their names. I suspect that the Caughell spelling is not even their own device, but chosen by some descendants in Canada. 

In the Mohawk Valley, NY there were many Palitines who came  after a great freeze destroyed crops about 1711. In reading through lists of local families about 1780, many of the names are from Germany and the  Netherlands with fewer from Britain and Ireland.

Sharon

It has always been our understanding that our family was Irish, but travelled to Holland for unknown reasons. Cockle also shows up in our written history, particularly during a time period when education would not have been as accessible 

Caughell changed to Caughill in our branch when one of my great-grandfather's brothers went west to British Columbia and joined the house churches there. My great-grandmother did not care for the connotation behind hell and changed it, although not consistently. The name registration varies back and forth between the two for her 13 children