I'm interested in finding information on the surnames of Brown (Demoan townland) and Truesdale (Carrickbrack townland) circa mid 1800's. The Truesdale family may also be in County Down.
There are no Brown households listed in Demoan nor any Truesdales in Carrickbrack in the tithe applotment records for 1830. That doesn’t mean they didn’t live there as the tithes only listed those with land but they weren’t farmers there then.
Griffiths Valuation for 1864 has no Browns in Demoan and no Truesdales in Carrickbrack. Likewise in the 1901 census. (In the 1901 census there were 14 households in Demoan and 16 in Carrickbrack, so small communities).
If your ancestors are recorded on a marriage or birth certificate in either townland, I would guess they were labourers or weavers who only lived there a comparatively short time. Weavers and labourers often held short leases (or even no lease) so they could move around to follow available work. They can be hard to trace.
These are the Brown baptisms from Ballymore from www.rootsireland.ie/; there are no Carrickbrack records there.
Only R C baptisms are available; there were no Truesdales
Church BaptismBrownJane1832Co. Armagh
Church BaptismBrownMary Grace1832Co. Armagh
Church BaptismBrewenJohn1835Co. Armagh
Church BaptismBrownThos1836Co. Armagh
Church BaptismBrownMary1841Co. Armagh
Church BaptismBrownEdward1843Co. Armagh
Church BaptismBrownMaryann1845Co. Armagh
There are no Truesdale marriage or burial records from Ballymore and only 2 Brown marriages:
Church MarriageBrownJohn1842Co. Armagh
Church MarriageBrownRose1845Co. Armagh
There are 170 Truesdale baptism records in County Down on roots. I looked at a few and all were Presbyterean
I can look up specific names and post details if you wish
Col
Elwyn - Yes, on the marriage record, the groom, John Truesdale, his father William Truesdale and the bride's father William Brown were all listed as a laborers and they are indeed difficult to pin down. Thank you for looking.
Col - The William Brown family were Presbyterian and William's daughter Mary Brown (b. abt 1831) and John Truesdale (b. 25 March 1839) were married on 1 March 1861 in Poyntzpass Prebyterian Church, Ballymore Parish. Could you check for a birth/baptism for John Truesdale in County Down for me? John's father was William Truesdale, not positive about the family's religion. Thank you.
The marriage record has Mary's address as Demone:
Date of Marriage:01-Mar-1861
Parish / District:POYNTZPASS PR
County:ARMAGH
Husband
WifeName:JohnTrusdale Address Carrickbrack
MaryBrownAddress:DemoneDenomination:Civil Parish / District
Civil Parish / DistrictOccupation:LABOURER
Age:Fa
FaStatus:Bachelor (Previously unmarried)
Spinster (Previously unmarried)
Husband's Father
Wife's FatherName:WilliamTrusdale
WilliamBrownAddress:
Occupation:LABOURER
LABOURER
Here's the John Truesdale record:
Name:John TruesdaleDate of Birth:26-Jan-1839
Date of Baptism:10-Feb-1839Address:Tollymurrey Down ParishParish/District:DownGender:
CountyCo. Down
Denomination:Church Of Ireland
Father:William TruesdaleMother:Isabella
Siblings - 2 older brothers / no sisters:
Name:Samuel TruesdaleDate of Birth:
Date of Baptism:20-Nov-1825Address:
Parish/District:DownGender:
CountyCo. Down
Denomination:Church Of Ireland
Father:William TruesdaleMother:Isabella
Name:Thomas TruesdaleDate of Birth:
Date of Baptism:10-Apr-1823Address:
Parish/District:DownGender:
CountyCo. Down
Denomination:Church Of Ireland
Father:William TruesdaleMother:Isabella
No luck with the marraige of William & Isabella so couldn't go back any further.
Col
Thank you Col. Could you tell me where you found the baptism record so I can go look for it too?
Irish Family History Foundation (subscription site) www.rootsireland.ie/
Col