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Bredget and Kate Kerins

KerryCastleisland (Kerry)Tralee (Kerry)

Hello all,

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Kerry/Lackabaun/Mullaghmarky/1428302/This is my Kerins family on the census (there are many variations on the spelling and there is even another Kerins family with parents John and Mary in the same parish) including my great grandfather Denis J, all of his siblings and parents John and Mary (maiden name Keane). I have accounted for all siblings but two: Kate and Bredget (born about 1888 and 1890 from what I can tell on this census).I would like to find out where they ended up before I go back further. Perhaps they got married or went off to work somewhere, and I would appreciate any suggestions on where to look. My great grandfather Denis emigrated in 1913 on the Majestic to New York and then went to Dorchester to meet my great grandmother Dora (maiden name Warren)who was already there. Brother Patrick stayed and wasburied in Ireland in the 60s, Simon emigrated and died young in New York, Ulick emigrated first to England and ended up in Rhode Island with sister Mary who was already there with her husband Carl. Denis went back to visit Ireland in 1950 and I have his passport with the stamp from Shannon. I imagine that he visited his brother then and maybe his nieces and nephews. Two of Patrick's daughter's came over here to visit and stay with Aunt Mary in the 1950's when my mother was young. I would really appreciate any suggestions about searching for Bredget and Kate. Thank you.

This might be Kate. 1923 marriage of Kate Kearin to John Doylehttps://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1923/09178/5319743.pdf

I still have had no luck with Bredget. How can you find out if someone became a nun? I am sorting through possibilities this week with the help of Dave and hope to have more information about Kate and Bredget soon.

Kerri

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I thought that I would post an update since I have found the marriage records of Kate and Bredget Kerins. Kate married John Doyle at the Church of Killtallagh, Castlemaine in 1923. Bredget married John Casey at the Church of Scarkoghin (I am not sure if I spelled that correctly, it was hard to make out), Castlemaine in 1924. Now I have new names to search. They did not emigrate as far as I know.

Kerri

Hi Kerri,

I've looked at the information you provided about your ancestors and did some further research. You wondered about what might have happened to Denis Joseph's sisters Kate and Bridget. I could find no likely marriage or death record for Kate, so perhaps she emigrated like some of her siblings? Alternatively, she might have been the Kate Kerins, working as a domestic servant with this family in 1911: http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai002483159/  It's unlikely that she's the Kate that married John Doyle as she seems to have been from Castlemaine.

With regard to Bridget, she is listed on the 1911 Census record:   http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai002510010/ , but sadly died later that year:   https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1911/05378/4500525.pdf The Bridget Kerin who married John Casey is from a different Kerin family.

You are correct about John and Mary Keane's marriage on 14 11 1886 https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1886/10854/5963384.pdf

The townland in which they lived, Mullaghmarky, seems also to have been called Curraheen, Curreheen and Curranes. John worked as a weaver and a labourer. John's father Denis worked as a tradesman and leased a few acres of land in Mullaghmarky around 1850 http://griffiths.askaboutireland.ie/gv4/z/zoomifyDynamicViewer.php?file=124110&path=./pix/124/&rs=12&showpage=1&mysession=2716485221944&width=&height= , and the family lived there until at least 1911.

Mary Keane's father was Simon Keane, who is listed as visiting them on the 1911 Census record. The Keane family came from the townland of Tooreenmore, near the village of Knocknagashel. He was a farmer and is probably the Simon Keane of Knocknagashel listed on Griffith's Valuation of around 1850 http://griffiths.askaboutireland.ie/gv4/z/zoomifyDynamicViewer.php?file=124105&path=./pix/124/&rs=40&showpage=1&mysession=2715761899176&width=&height= He is possibly the same Simon Keane who was married to Bridget Downey, living in Tooreenmore, who had children named John, Patrick, Margaret, Kerry, and Lawrence as some of these names are in the extended family. The Keanes listed in Tooreenmore on Griffith's valuation would also be related http://griffiths.askaboutireland.ie/gv4/z/zoomifyDynamicViewer.php?file=124113&path=./pix/124/&rs=22&showpage=1&mysession=2716352380844&width=&height=

I also found a Death Record for John Kerin on 05 12 1922  http://docstore.kerrycoco.ie/burialrecords/Old_Kilbannivane_1_1922-1942_0004.pdf

The following are the Birth Records for John and Mary's children:

Catherine Kerin, Currans, 03 07 1887 https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1887/02544/1941719.pdf

Bridget Kearin, Currans, 13 05 1889 https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1889/02469/1917038.pdf

Denis Kerin, Curranes, 27 02 1891 https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1891/02395/1893253.pdf

Patrick Kerin, Curraheen, 12 03 1893 https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1893/02288/1858871.pdf

Simon Kerin, Curranes, 23 02 1895 https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1895/02223/1838518.pdf

Ulick Kerin, Carraheen, 06 11 1898 See attached file

Mary Kerin, Curaheen, 15 08 1904 https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1904/01811/1709447.pdf

I hope this helps.

Every good wish,

Joan Holland

 

Joan Holland, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘IrelandXO Volunteer

Yes, this helps tremendously!! Thank you very much Joan Holland!!

Kerri

Hello,

Thank you for the links, Joan. My brother was looking to visit the area where the family stayed next year, but we weren't sure of the village names. This was very helpful in finding more information.

I'm Simon's great granddaughter. He was married to Ellen (nee O'Connor) and they had five children. He did die young in New York--he fell out a window on his child's christening day. After he passed, his eldest son John, my grandfather, got a job in a grocer's to help support the family. Simon was active in the old IRA. I am not sure if any of his brothers were as well. My father tells me that whenever Simon visited an Irish pub in New York, people would clap for him when he walked in. Before he left for New York, he had to watch his mother Mary's funeral from afar because there were British soldiers there waiting to arrest him. 

K K

Hi Kerri,

I had another look at all of the above as it has been six years since your last message and I had forgotten a lot of the details! 

I decided to see if I could follow up on Patrick as he was the only family member that we were sure stayed in Ireland. In 2026 he was still living in Mullaghmarkey with his wife Norah and two children - Norah, aged 1 year 3 months and John aged 1 month.

https://nai-census-images-private.s3.amazonaws.com/c26/STAT_1_13/121_Mullaghmarkey/Mullaghmarkey_2376_0007_0014_0_00027.PDF?

I found that his wife was Norah Paradine from Cordal. They married 27 January 1921.

https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/marriage_returns/marriages_1924/09173/5317860.pdf

Their daughter Nora was born in 1924.

https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/birth_returns/births_1925/01089/1457759.pdf

Patrick died in 1967 in Ardmona, Cordal

https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/deaths_returns/deaths_1967/04200/4072905.pdf

He is buried in Kilbannivane Cemetery, Castleisland.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/189476329/patrick-kerins

 I think that Denis Kerins, who died in 2010 is his son.

http://193.178.30.14/KerryBurials/burialrecords/St._Johns_(Castleisland)_1_1987-2010_0036.pdf

I'm wondering when your brother is thinking of visiting Kerry?

I will see if I can find any other descendants still living in the area. 

Hope this helps.

Joan

Joan Holland, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘IrelandXO Volunteer

Hi KK,

I did some further research to see if I could find out more about John Kerin's parents. His father was Denis Kerin who was married to Kate Prendiville. They married 29 February 1840. As well as John, who was born around 1850, they had a son called Ulysses, born circa 1843, a son Thomas, born circa 1846 and a daughter Elizabeth, born 15 April 1856. Elizabeth (Bessie) was later present at the births of some of John Kerin and Mary Keane's children. She was also a witness at their wedding and present at the deaths of both her parents.

Denis Kerin died 28 March 1876

https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/deaths_returns/deaths_1876/020591/7224850.pdf

Catherine Kerin died 9 August 1888

https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/deaths_returns/deaths_1888/06164/4761861.pdf

Ulysses married Catherine Connor 27 November 1866

https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/marriage_returns/marriages_1866/11557/8251485.pdf 

Thomas married Mary Morgan/Horgan 5 September 1868

https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/marriage_returns/marriages_1868/11470/8216365.pdf 

Elizabeth married Daniel Sullivan, Curraheen 2 February 1893

https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/marriage_returns/marriages_1893/10593/5859401.pdf 

I can also confirm that Denis Kerin, mentioned above, who died in 2010, was indeed Patrick Kerin and Nora Paradine's son. I have made contact with Denis' son Patrick Kerin who still lives in Ardmona. He says he would be willing to meet your brother if he visits Kerry next year.

I hope this helps.

Best wishes,

Joan

Joan Holland, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘IrelandXO Volunteer

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