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Barron & Byrne families from Carlow

Hello - I'm planning to visit Carlow in mid-May to research the history of the Barron and Byrne families.

My great grandfather, Patrick Barron, was born c1853 in Carlow. His father was Thomas Barron, a labourer. Patrick came to Stoke-on-Trent, England, when he was about 20 I guess. I do not know if his father came with him.

Patrick married twice, the first time in 1873. His first wife, Eliza Brien, died the following year, probably in childbirth. Patrick remarried in 1876 to my great grandmother, Margaret Byrne, born c1854 in Stoke-on-Trent.Patrick was killed in a pit accident in 1892. They had seven children including my grandfather, John Francis Barron.

Margaret's parents were Terrance and Catherine (maiden name unknown) Byrne. They also came from Carlow.Terrance wasa labourer in an ironworks in Stoke-on-Trent. I have no idea if he and Catherine were married in Carlow or Stoke. I haven't traced parents for either of them.

It's possible obviously that the familiesknew each other in Carlow. The only Thomas Barron I can find in Grittihs Valuationis at Stonecutter's Lane in Dunleckny. I also have a baptism of a Thomas Barron in 1806. I do not know if either of them is my Thomas Barron.Many thanks.

virginia.heath…

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Hi Ginny

This is the only birth/baptism on www.rootsireland.ie/ for Patrick

Name:Patrick BarronDate of Birth:
Date of Baptism:21-Jul-1846Address:LisilicanParish/District:BORRISGender:
CountyCo. Carlow
Denomination:Roman Catholic
Father:Patrick BarronMother:Mary KerwinOccupation:
Sponsor 1 /
Informant 1:James KerwinSponsor 2 /
Informant 2:Catherine Whelan
Notes:

[E] [CHILD AND FATHERS NAME GIVEN AS PATT]

The note at the end could mean that the father's name wasn't Pat

I couldn't find a marriage record for the Byrnes or a baptism record for Terrance

There are 4 Barrons in the Tithe Applotments in Carlow (free online) & 584 Byrnes 20 of whom are in Kiltennell parish where 2 of the Barrons were; there are also 22 in Sliguff where the other Barrons were.

No luck in the irish Censuses however

Col

 

 

 

ColCaffIrelandXO Volunteer

Thank you so much, Col. Appreciate your work on this. It probably means that Patrick was older than the ages stated on both of his marriage certificates. His birth years vary between 1851 and 1853, but he could have been born in 1846, according to the baptism details. Were such variations usual as in birth years and fathers' names?  

virginia.heath…

Yes there are a lot of inaccuracies due to lack of knowledge of birth dates / years by those informing the record takers; there were also literacy issues and transcription errors!

Col

ColCaffIrelandXO Volunteer

Twins born and baptized to Thomas Barron and Bridget Halpin in the Dunleckney (Catholic) Parish Registers July, 1857 in Bagenalstown. You can view online at the NLIreland Catholic Records website, just type in Dunleckney Parish an baptismal records foy June 1857. Its free.

xx? June, 1857
John Barron
Thomas Barron
BridgetHalpin
John Johnson
Jane Johnson
Bagenalstown

xx? June, 1857
Thomas Barron
Thomas Barron
BridgetHalpin
John Earl?
Mary Connors
Bagenalstown

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