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Barber surname

I have not yet been able to find any Irish History for my 3x's great grandparents, Nathaniel & Elizabeth (Williams) Barber.  Nathaniel was apparently born in Cavan Co in 1785, Elizabeth in Ballymena in 1787, but neither are sourced.  I am placing their marriage between 1804, and the date of their first born in 1817.  They had 4 children born in Ireland: James (1817), Francis (1825); Samuel (1829); and Sarah (1831).  With their next child Eliza being born in Canada in 1837, that put their journey to the new land sometime about 1832-1836.  This has really got me confused, as there doesn't seem to be any information on any of my family.  I would love to take a trip to the motherland, but I would also love to visit sites, where my ancestry was from, and not clear across the country.  Such a beautiful land and one that I am not only proud to be part of, but one that I am just itching to visit.  Thanks

pbarber

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You may already be aware of this info, but at the Family Search site (https://www.familysearch.org) there is a family which seems to fit your info very closely, consisting of a Nathaniel Barber, born in 1785, and his wife, Elizabeth Williams, with exactly the children you mentioned, and with the family ending up in Canada.  The one discrepancy is that both Nathaniel and Elizabeth are shown as being borrn n Belfast, as are all of the children other than Elizabeth.  There is also extensive info about the descendants of all of the children, other than Elizabeth.

Family Search is a free site, though you have to create an account to use it.  If you do so, you can find Nathaniel under his unique ID number LH11-7GB.

kevin45sf@yahoo.com

Wow!  It may be that all this time, I have actually been looking in the wrong area.  I have heard rumblings about my family being from the Belfast area, rumblings about the children being born in the Co Cavan, also talk of Armagh and Antrim.  These hints of areas not yet talked about, may be the spark I need to conquer my ancient brick wall.  I know Irish research to me tends to be a tad confusing, especially now when my next step will be to find which Parish they were residents of, but I am possibly stepping in the right direction.  All I know, is that living thousands of miles away, and not knowing a lot about my mother country, I still have found a certain pride in telling people that I am Irish.  To many of the people in our area, it wouldn't really matter what county. or parish, so I stick to saying that my heritage is Irish.  However for my own pride, and family interest, it would be nice to find a parish to attach to, and perhaps, God willing a generation or two on the homelands of Ireland.  Thanks to Kevin & Margot for the shove in the right direction, and perhaps now when I go to Ireland I can travel the area, at least knowing the family lived on these soils almost 200 years ago.  

pbarber

Okay so I have had a further look at the info I have recieved and I am even more excited and grateful  So the tithe allotment is in the County of Cavan, the Parish of Drumgoon (which is Drumgooland?) and the Diocese of Kilmon.  So if I was to look, say for the birth registration for James Barber (1817) I could perhaps find it by following back through the chain and those three areas I mentioned?  Wow, this may be just what the Covid-19 doctor ordered...by the way I actually tested negative, so lots of good news lately....thanks again

pbarber

Hi pbarer,  Now for the tricky bit!!
Don't get too excited, it may take a while to get the info.
As they where C of E/I you would have to go through PRONI  (Public Records of Northern Ireland) it's in Belfast.
Cavan in County Tyrone, (Northern Ireland now), borders County Monaghan (this is now the Republic of Ireland) 
You see, there is Cavan town in County Cavan.
Great fun isn't it!

Can you just look at this link please....
Sarah married John Armstrong...........look at entry number 9 for their marriage.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS7D-BS58-7?i=47&cc=2568642
Let me know what you think of this entry.

 

Margot Secrette

Margot

Yes this is Sarah Barber, my 2x's  great aunt. and I know what you are looking at.  It says for Sarah's mother Elizabeth Graham, however I haven't yet had a chance to dig into this any further, as I was always under the impression that Nathaniel married Elizabeth Williams, until this came along.  So another question w.r.t. your comments about research being tricky.  Why does such a beautiful country have to be so complicated?  If I could source some info to ensure I am looking at the right family line, I would be on the next plane to Ireland, boosting the Irish Tourism.  I do a lot of photography and I know my camera would be on non stop mode as soon as I touched down.  BTW thanks again for the input

 

Paul

pbarber

Hi Paul,
I am not sure when to point you next.
We rely on the Church records for birth before 1864. 
Sorry I am not much help.
Margot
 

Margot Secrette

Margot.....please do not say that you are not much help, as you have been an amazing assistance, and perhaps have me pointed in the right direction to finally conquer that family brick wal....I appreciate your help and look forward to visiting Ireland possibly much sooner thanks to you.

 

Paul

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