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Alexander family in Tyrone & Donegal

Looking for any information on my 4th great grandpa and his ancestors posibly still there.

It appears that Robert Alexander b. 10 Nov 1797 came to America with his father William Alexander b.2 Jan 1737. Robert put Tyrone down as his place of birth. But haven't found any place of birth for William. Through Ancestry.com I have found someone that shows Williammarrying in Virginia in 1755, so they obviously came earlier than that. I also found records saying that William's parents were Peter Alexander b.1714 in Donegal and Jane Scott b.1720.

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Sadly there aren’t any parish records for Donegal or Tyrone in the 1700s and so researching the family that way is pretty well impossible. DNA testing might be the only way to find a connection.

Looking at the 1901 census, there were 111 Alexanders in Donegal and 271 in Tyrone at the time. Most were Presbyterian, indicating they were descendants of Scots who settled in that area in the 1600s.

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Elwyn

Thank you for letting me know the situation. Just the bit about the probability that they were Scots is a new idea to me.

I have done the DNA testing, but so far it hasn't shown me any connections. Although that is the fun thing about DNA, every day could be the day that new match shows up.

Thanks again for the information.

Toni

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Alexander is not a native Irish name. Donegal and other Ulster counties was heavily settled by Scots in the 1600s. Some came as a part of the Plantation of Ulster but a large number also came as famine refugees in the 1690s when Scotland was ravaged by famine. Scots brought Presbyterianism to Ireland (it was established in Scotland by John Knox). So if you have a Scottish surname, your family lived in Donegal and were either Presbyterian or Church of Ireland then they are almost certainly descendants of those 1600s Scottish settlers.

Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘IrelandXO Volunteer

Elwyn,

Thanks again for sharing the information. Is there a book or site that you would recommend to learn more about the Scots that settled in the 1600s? I have googled it and learned quite a bit, but I am just wondering if there is anything that you think might be more informative.

Really appreciate your help,

Toni

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Toni,

I'd recommend: Eagles Wings - The journey of the Ulster Scots and Scotch-Irish, by Dr David Hume.

 

Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘IrelandXO Volunteer

Thanks so much. I will look for that book to learn what I can of that period. I remember my grandma said they were Scotch/Irish and I knew that was a certain population  but really hadn't thought very much about it. But that must of been what she was talking about. My dna says I am 28% Irish and 62% Great Britain. And I was told that any Scottish and Welsh lines would be included in the GB. I have a Samuel Peoples that was also possibly Irish descent, although I haven't found proof yet, as he died before the 1850 census and I have never been able to find his parents or birthplace. But he married one of Robert Alexander's daughters. These are all from my mom's side since I just recently found out that I was the result of an affair when my mom was separated from "dad". But most of her lines that I do have are English, Bartholomew, Stanford, Pigsley/Pixley, Wescott, England....but somewhere there is 28% Irish...maybe my unknown father.

I appreciate all the information and look forward to reading about the Ulter Scots.

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My 7th great-grandmother was Charity Alexander born in Ireland  in 1719 and died in Dublin in 1943 two years after the premier of Handle’s Mesiah. There was also a famine in ’40-’41, but I'm not sure if that had anything to do with her young death (24). 

The Great Frost and Famine of 1740-1741 (Bliain an Áir - "The Year of Slaughter"):

   * What it was: This was a catastrophic period in Ireland, often overshadowed by the Great Famine of the 1840s but proportionally even more devastating. It was caused by extremely cold and dry weather in successive years, leading to widespread failure of grain harvests, shortage of milk, and severe frost damage to potatoes (which were a staple food, though grains were more dominant for most at this time).

   * Impact: The famine led to mass starvation, but perhaps even more significantly, it was compounded by widespread outbreaks of fatal diseases. Estimates suggest that between 300,000 and 480,000 people died across Ireland (out of a population of 2.4 million), a loss of 13% to 20% of the population.

Maceykc

Charity Alexander married John McDougal that was related to the Blairgarry Earls in Scotland. So, definitely Scotch-Irish.

Maceykc

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